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	<title>Comments on: Alumni: Don&#8217;t expect free use of athletic center</title>
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		<title>By: Rocco Flanagan</title>
		<link>http://www.tommiemedia.com/news/alumni-dont-expect-free-use-of-athletic-center/comment-page-1/#comment-1894</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocco Flanagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, Tony. You gotta stop drinkin&#039; the kool-aid man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, Tony. You gotta stop drinkin&#8217; the kool-aid man.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh ya, one more thing, all those &quot;free shirts&quot; and everything else is actually paid for by you and me via our &quot;activities fee&quot; that everyone has to pay whether they benefit from those handouts or not. I am not saying that an activity fee is a bad thing, I think it very necessary as a club president/founder but that you should not be so quick to be wowed by cheap t-shirts that is only free advertising, that you paid for, for the campus every time you put one on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh ya, one more thing, all those &#8220;free shirts&#8221; and everything else is actually paid for by you and me via our &#8220;activities fee&#8221; that everyone has to pay whether they benefit from those handouts or not. I am not saying that an activity fee is a bad thing, I think it very necessary as a club president/founder but that you should not be so quick to be wowed by cheap t-shirts that is only free advertising, that you paid for, for the campus every time you put one on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>set up that meeting with an administrator that would actually meet with me. I believe that on top of providing all that great programming that they do, that the office of campus life is supposed to be a resource to assist students in connecting and trying to make a difference on the campus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>set up that meeting with an administrator that would actually meet with me. I believe that on top of providing all that great programming that they do, that the office of campus life is supposed to be a resource to assist students in connecting and trying to make a difference on the campus.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried multiple times to set up meetings and times to discuss various issues with many administrators on campus and have only been turned away. All that I wish to do is talk with them and show them my point of view even if their answer is still no. I believe that there are many staff on campus that do care about the students very much but they are not the administrators making the larger decisions that ultimately affect students. I have known many people even in USG that do not feel they have any say. All they really do is plan what to do with money that is allocated to them by the administrators and that is where their job ends. I have been to a couple of other colleges and universities that I have felt a completely different atmosphere on their campus because of the student involvement that can be felt immediately. I just think it is a shame that students do not have more say in what happens on this campus and that when students do try to raise their opinions and teach a different point of view that they are turned away and completely ignored. I have felt this many different times and have actually been told by the office of campus life to &quot;just drop it&quot; when I was trying to have them help me connect with administrators on campus because they said that I couldnt help me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried multiple times to set up meetings and times to discuss various issues with many administrators on campus and have only been turned away. All that I wish to do is talk with them and show them my point of view even if their answer is still no. I believe that there are many staff on campus that do care about the students very much but they are not the administrators making the larger decisions that ultimately affect students. I have known many people even in USG that do not feel they have any say. All they really do is plan what to do with money that is allocated to them by the administrators and that is where their job ends. I have been to a couple of other colleges and universities that I have felt a completely different atmosphere on their campus because of the student involvement that can be felt immediately. I just think it is a shame that students do not have more say in what happens on this campus and that when students do try to raise their opinions and teach a different point of view that they are turned away and completely ignored. I have felt this many different times and have actually been told by the office of campus life to &#8220;just drop it&#8221; when I was trying to have them help me connect with administrators on campus because they said that I couldnt help me</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Mulvahill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Mulvahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but calling the koch gym a weight room facility is like saying Keana Reeves deserved an Oscar for his performance in The Replacements. Its mostly a running facility and thats about it.  My point isn&#039;t that I personally want a membership for a year and that I&#039;m going to try (I probably will live within 10 minutes of campus though); its that the situation of this year&#039;s senior class is unique to other alumni in that we haven&#039;t even had half-way decent or respectable facilities for our senior year.  Everyone older than us at least had 4 years of OSH and everyone younger than us will at least get to use the new building for a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but calling the koch gym a weight room facility is like saying Keana Reeves deserved an Oscar for his performance in The Replacements. Its mostly a running facility and thats about it.  My point isn&#8217;t that I personally want a membership for a year and that I&#8217;m going to try (I probably will live within 10 minutes of campus though); its that the situation of this year&#8217;s senior class is unique to other alumni in that we haven&#8217;t even had half-way decent or respectable facilities for our senior year.  Everyone older than us at least had 4 years of OSH and everyone younger than us will at least get to use the new building for a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Bombardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Bombardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been to (or really seen) what they have set up under the bleachers. There&#039;s still koch gym though, isn&#039;t there? That&#039;s got most types of weights and other machines... But i&#039;d say good luck getting a free membership from them i guess... do you even plan on living in the neighborhood after this year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been to (or really seen) what they have set up under the bleachers. There&#8217;s still koch gym though, isn&#8217;t there? That&#8217;s got most types of weights and other machines&#8230; But i&#8217;d say good luck getting a free membership from them i guess&#8230; do you even plan on living in the neighborhood after this year?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Mulvahill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Mulvahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony- As a senior, I think my situation is definitely different than the other classes considering that I have had my access to athletic facilities taken away from me for a year (don&#039;t even try to call the weight room under the bleachers an athletic facility).  The least they could do is give the senior class a one year membership to the new building, I&#039;m pretty sure we&#039;re paying for it in our tuition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony- As a senior, I think my situation is definitely different than the other classes considering that I have had my access to athletic facilities taken away from me for a year (don&#8217;t even try to call the weight room under the bleachers an athletic facility).  The least they could do is give the senior class a one year membership to the new building, I&#8217;m pretty sure we&#8217;re paying for it in our tuition.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Bombardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Bombardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright John, here&#039;s my evidence.
-free concerts
-free shirts (whether you want them or not) at many events
-the campus is always well kept and has many areas for students to enjoy such as the two libraries, the grotto, and many new buildings and current projects for the betterment of the campus. 

My mom works at St. Thomas in the health service and I know SHE cares about the students, as does every co-worker of her&#039;s that I&#039;ve met in the 4 and a half years I spent at st. thomas, and I think that many of them would be (and probably are, since a lot of staff read this site too) offended that you&#039;d make the judgement that they don&#039;t care about students. This school and it&#039;s students are their LIFE. 
Realize though, that in addition to being a place for students, the university is also a business, and businesses need money to operate. 
Personally , I wouldn&#039;t plan on using the facilities once they opened even if they WERE free. I&#039;ll just get a gym membership if i want one, and go somehwere that&#039;s not in the center of a busy neighborhood with a lack of free parking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright John, here&#8217;s my evidence.<br />
-free concerts<br />
-free shirts (whether you want them or not) at many events<br />
-the campus is always well kept and has many areas for students to enjoy such as the two libraries, the grotto, and many new buildings and current projects for the betterment of the campus. </p>
<p>My mom works at St. Thomas in the health service and I know SHE cares about the students, as does every co-worker of her&#8217;s that I&#8217;ve met in the 4 and a half years I spent at st. thomas, and I think that many of them would be (and probably are, since a lot of staff read this site too) offended that you&#8217;d make the judgement that they don&#8217;t care about students. This school and it&#8217;s students are their LIFE. <br />
Realize though, that in addition to being a place for students, the university is also a business, and businesses need money to operate. <br />
Personally , I wouldn&#8217;t plan on using the facilities once they opened even if they WERE free. I&#8217;ll just get a gym membership if i want one, and go somehwere that&#8217;s not in the center of a busy neighborhood with a lack of free parking.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious...when did being an alum of this school entitle one to all of the benefits of being a student?  I don&#039;t got back to my old high school and go to the football games or prom, yet people are up in a tizzy because it might cost money to use facilities at a school that said people don&#039;t go to anymore?  The logic here isn&#039;t making sense.  When you&#039;re at a school, you get the sweet perks.  When you leave a school, welcome to the real world.  People pay for things.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious&#8230;when did being an alum of this school entitle one to all of the benefits of being a student?  I don&#8217;t got back to my old high school and go to the football games or prom, yet people are up in a tizzy because it might cost money to use facilities at a school that said people don&#8217;t go to anymore?  The logic here isn&#8217;t making sense.  When you&#8217;re at a school, you get the sweet perks.  When you leave a school, welcome to the real world.  People pay for things.  </p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Pogin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn Pogin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon- is there a difference between forced early retirement and offering an early retirement option? And I certainly understand the frustration, but I&#039;m not certain it&#039;s fair to say the administration doesn&#039;t care about us... I know many administrators take a personal interest in the success of UST students.  There might be administrators that don&#039;t, but even if there are, I think we should be careful about lumping them all together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon- is there a difference between forced early retirement and offering an early retirement option? And I certainly understand the frustration, but I&#8217;m not certain it&#8217;s fair to say the administration doesn&#8217;t care about us&#8230; I know many administrators take a personal interest in the success of UST students.  There might be administrators that don&#8217;t, but even if there are, I think we should be careful about lumping them all together.</p>
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